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		<title>By: regumindtrail</title>
		<link>http://regumindtrail.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/acessing-osgi-service-from-non-osgi-client/#comment-1460</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vikash,
The sample I have on this blog entry includes a standalone Java class that you may use to invoke a OSGi service. Iam not sure what else you are looking for. Note that this is a dated post and now you must have easier ways of doing the same - using Spring OSGi or alike solutions.
Regu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vikash,<br />
The sample I have on this blog entry includes a standalone Java class that you may use to invoke a OSGi service. Iam not sure what else you are looking for. Note that this is a dated post and now you must have easier ways of doing the same &#8211; using Spring OSGi or alike solutions.<br />
Regu</p>
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		<title>By: Vikash Anand</title>
		<link>http://regumindtrail.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/acessing-osgi-service-from-non-osgi-client/#comment-1459</link>
		<dc:creator>Vikash Anand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I am new to OSGI. Using reference from serverside.com and javaworld.com I have created a hello world kind of plugin. I have exported it as deployable plugin and fragments.....Now I want to use this plugin for a test application....please send me some URL for reference as I tried searching but could not get one or some help on it.

Thanks and Regards,
Vikash Anand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am new to OSGI. Using reference from serverside.com and javaworld.com I have created a hello world kind of plugin. I have exported it as deployable plugin and fragments&#8230;..Now I want to use this plugin for a test application&#8230;.please send me some URL for reference as I tried searching but could not get one or some help on it.</p>
<p>Thanks and Regards,<br />
Vikash Anand.</p>
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		<title>By: regumindtrail</title>
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		<dc:creator>regumindtrail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Oleg,

Thanks for the pointers. You are definitely doing the community a favour by writing the tutorial. 
I shall take a look and get back to you in due course.

Regu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Oleg,</p>
<p>Thanks for the pointers. You are definitely doing the community a favour by writing the tutorial.<br />
I shall take a look and get back to you in due course.</p>
<p>Regu</p>
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		<title>By: Oleg Zhurakousky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oleg Zhurakousky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 12:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Regu
I figured I&#039;ll share some of he knowledge I have regarding Spring-DM and OSGi that might help you in your ventures :-). Recently, I&#039;ve written a &quot;Getting Started&quot; tutorial which I plan to expend (with community suggestions). 
http://springosgi.googlepages.com/
But in its current state it already addresses some of the concerns you currently have:
 - Ability to load all the required OSGi bundles *before* I could load my bundle
 - Look up a published service from the bundle I deployed and invoke it from my standalone code

Although in its current state it mainly concentrates on  how to develop and work with Spring-DM using Eclipse, the same principles could be applied on standalone environment.

Section 1.4 give a few pointers on the order of the bundle startup
The last section is about developing Spring-MVC application which will access the &quot;sample service&quot; deployed earlier as and outside service. And although these are both Spring-DM bundles, the communication between them is pure OSGi.
Let me know if you have any comments
Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Regu<br />
I figured I&#8217;ll share some of he knowledge I have regarding Spring-DM and OSGi that might help you in your ventures <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Recently, I&#8217;ve written a &#8220;Getting Started&#8221; tutorial which I plan to expend (with community suggestions).<br />
<a href="http://springosgi.googlepages.com/" rel="nofollow">http://springosgi.googlepages.com/</a><br />
But in its current state it already addresses some of the concerns you currently have:<br />
 &#8211; Ability to load all the required OSGi bundles *before* I could load my bundle<br />
 &#8211; Look up a published service from the bundle I deployed and invoke it from my standalone code</p>
<p>Although in its current state it mainly concentrates on  how to develop and work with Spring-DM using Eclipse, the same principles could be applied on standalone environment.</p>
<p>Section 1.4 give a few pointers on the order of the bundle startup<br />
The last section is about developing Spring-MVC application which will access the &#8220;sample service&#8221; deployed earlier as and outside service. And although these are both Spring-DM bundles, the communication between them is pure OSGi.<br />
Let me know if you have any comments<br />
Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: regumindtrail</title>
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		<dc:creator>regumindtrail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Praveena,

Thanks for the comments and glad that you liked my other posts :)

I am a newbie to OSGi and still debating within myself on the benefits that it can bring to a regular J2EE application. I could see its immediate application in a project where we need incremental download of binaries to address bandwidth issues. Other than that I am unable to get myself to justify the effort that goes into breaking up an application into many dynamic components - I&#039;ll not even mention packaging, which is not an easy task today.

I guess that explains why I haven&#039;t formed opinions on  OSGi and its relevance to the different audience you mention above. I however agree that it must make sense to each of the above in order to make an impact.

For now, it is definitely an area to watch closely from a technical person&#039;s(developer, lead) perspective  and of course to try using it to address some of one&#039;s own immediate needs - thats the way I view any new technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Praveena,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments and glad that you liked my other posts <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am a newbie to OSGi and still debating within myself on the benefits that it can bring to a regular J2EE application. I could see its immediate application in a project where we need incremental download of binaries to address bandwidth issues. Other than that I am unable to get myself to justify the effort that goes into breaking up an application into many dynamic components &#8211; I&#8217;ll not even mention packaging, which is not an easy task today.</p>
<p>I guess that explains why I haven&#8217;t formed opinions on  OSGi and its relevance to the different audience you mention above. I however agree that it must make sense to each of the above in order to make an impact.</p>
<p>For now, it is definitely an area to watch closely from a technical person&#8217;s(developer, lead) perspective  and of course to try using it to address some of one&#8217;s own immediate needs &#8211; thats the way I view any new technology.</p>
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		<title>By: praveena</title>
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		<dc:creator>praveena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 08:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Regu,

Nice one. It would be great if you can explain the technical/business benefits of OSGI to different stake holders.
1. Developers (In terms of code)
2. Project Managers (In terms of productivity maintainence)
3. Business Executives (In terms of $)
finally 
4. What will happen to our lives if we don&#039;t understand/use OSGi. what we will miss?

in am manner you explained ESB myth. I see OSGI literature out there explains how OSgi helps to solve deployment (effecient class loading, versioning), this definately doesn&#039;t match the current hype.

I also guess this is not another EJB stuff (Forcing people to un-necessarily thining about distrubution, transaction etc... with hell lot of interface, OSGi API looks similar btw :)) as Rod Johnosn (Spring author) predicted OSGi to be hot in 2008 &amp; investing huge time along app server vendors (IBM &amp; BEA)

Anyway it&#039;s really nice to read your informative blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Regu,</p>
<p>Nice one. It would be great if you can explain the technical/business benefits of OSGI to different stake holders.<br />
1. Developers (In terms of code)<br />
2. Project Managers (In terms of productivity maintainence)<br />
3. Business Executives (In terms of $)<br />
finally<br />
4. What will happen to our lives if we don&#8217;t understand/use OSGi. what we will miss?</p>
<p>in am manner you explained ESB myth. I see OSGI literature out there explains how OSgi helps to solve deployment (effecient class loading, versioning), this definately doesn&#8217;t match the current hype.</p>
<p>I also guess this is not another EJB stuff (Forcing people to un-necessarily thining about distrubution, transaction etc&#8230; with hell lot of interface, OSGi API looks similar btw <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ) as Rod Johnosn (Spring author) predicted OSGi to be hot in 2008 &amp; investing huge time along app server vendors (IBM &amp; BEA)</p>
<p>Anyway it&#8217;s really nice to read your informative blogs.</p>
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